Comments on: System Snapshot http://www.multiplereflections.org/journal/2007/07/18/system-snapshot/ Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:04:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: JAGA http://www.multiplereflections.org/journal/2007/07/18/system-snapshot/comment-page-1/#comment-22 JAGA Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:53:01 +0000 http://www.multiplereflections.org/journal/2007/07/18/system-snapshot/#comment-22 <p>Austin-  I really could relate to some of what you said, and there was some stuff that made me stop and think and wonder about.  I can really understand about being able to say such and such happened (usually I can in a general sense), but when I actually feel it and believe it... that's when my issues begin as well.  I also generally have trouble saying what actually happened although someone(s) in here can say it with no feelings at all.  I can though say that "I was sexually abused." Anyway, it is true though that once the feelings and actual belief of it, and once it sinks in to a reality, then that's when everything gets seriously problematic with issues and stuff. </p><p>The part about not being in control when you were hurt at will-- that's something I read and just completely disconnect from it.  Sometimes I'll read things and I know I'm capable of understanding it, but something in me will just "not get it," and this is one of those things.  On one level I do understand it and on another level I don't and with that level of I don't comes the part of me that is blank, mindless, and has no idea if this applies to me or not.  It's like it prevents me from looking at this in my life so that I can determine whether or not it applies and if so, how much and how does it apply.  Anyway, just glad to hear your thoughts on it.  Good stuff to think about and consider. </p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Julie </p> Austin-  I really could relate to some of what you said, and there was some stuff that made me stop and think and wonder about.  I can really understand about being able to say such and such happened (usually I can in a general sense), but when I actually feel it and believe it… that's when my issues begin as well.  I also generally have trouble saying what actually happened although someone(s) in here can say it with no feelings at all.  I can though say that "I was sexually abused." Anyway, it is true though that once the feelings and actual belief of it, and once it sinks in to a reality, then that's when everything gets seriously problematic with issues and stuff.

The part about not being in control when you were hurt at will– that's something I read and just completely disconnect from it.  Sometimes I'll read things and I know I'm capable of understanding it, but something in me will just "not get it," and this is one of those things.  On one level I do understand it and on another level I don't and with that level of I don't comes the part of me that is blank, mindless, and has no idea if this applies to me or not.  It's like it prevents me from looking at this in my life so that I can determine whether or not it applies and if so, how much and how does it apply.  Anyway, just glad to hear your thoughts on it.  Good stuff to think about and consider.

Thanks,

Julie 

]]> By: JAGA http://www.multiplereflections.org/journal/2007/07/18/system-snapshot/comment-page-1/#comment-21 JAGA Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:43:39 +0000 http://www.multiplereflections.org/journal/2007/07/18/system-snapshot/#comment-21 <p>Keepers-- Yes, we've gone through times where many or nearly the entire system has 'shut down,' or almost everyone has 'disappeared.'  I've found that it generally happens under extreme duress or when we're dealing with some intense stuff internally and/or externally.  I know intellectually that it happens and that it will pass.  Emotionally though it tends to bring up a lot of mixed feelings and thoughts, and basically feeling really unsettled and things not feeling 'right.'  Anyway, I woke up today and I suddenly felt like myself, and many insiders seem to have returned.  I still feel a little bit on edge as though they can be taken away again at any time, but some are closer and have appeared in writing and L.J. showed up around a few friends today for a little bit.  So things are sort of settling back to the 'usual.'  It seems to still be a work in progress.  Thanks for your reminder that things will work themselves out.</p><p>~ Julie<br /> </p> Keepers– Yes, we've gone through times where many or nearly the entire system has 'shut down,' or almost everyone has 'disappeared.'  I've found that it generally happens under extreme duress or when we're dealing with some intense stuff internally and/or externally.  I know intellectually that it happens and that it will pass.  Emotionally though it tends to bring up a lot of mixed feelings and thoughts, and basically feeling really unsettled and things not feeling 'right.'  Anyway, I woke up today and I suddenly felt like myself, and many insiders seem to have returned.  I still feel a little bit on edge as though they can be taken away again at any time, but some are closer and have appeared in writing and L.J. showed up around a few friends today for a little bit.  So things are sort of settling back to the 'usual.'  It seems to still be a work in progress.  Thanks for your reminder that things will work themselves out.

~ Julie

]]> By: Austin http://www.multiplereflections.org/journal/2007/07/18/system-snapshot/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Austin Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:13:29 +0000 http://www.multiplereflections.org/journal/2007/07/18/system-snapshot/#comment-11 The battle between believing and accepting is hard for me because it doesn't just mean I have to believe I was hurt, it means I have to know there was a time in my life that I didn't have control when I was hurt at will. I can say this or that happened to me but when I feel it and believe it that's when my real issues begin. That's when all the why questions start and when I begin to feel overwhelmed and damaged beyond fixing. When I can accept that there are times in life when I'm powerless and <strong>it doesn't demean me</strong> as a person to have <strong>moments </strong>of powerlessness now nor does it demean me to have had them back then.....that's when believing and accepting becomes easier for me. Sometimes I can hold onto this belief and acceptance and other times I'm too tired to figure it all out.Austin   The battle between believing and accepting is hard for me because it doesn't just mean I have to believe I was hurt, it means I have to know there was a time in my life that I didn't have control when I was hurt at will. I can say this or that happened to me but when I feel it and believe it that's when my real issues begin. That's when all the why questions start and when I begin to feel overwhelmed and damaged beyond fixing. When I can accept that there are times in life when I'm powerless and it doesn't demean me as a person to have moments of powerlessness now nor does it demean me to have had them back then…..that's when believing and accepting becomes easier for me. Sometimes I can hold onto this belief and acceptance and other times I'm too tired to figure it all out.Austin  

]]> By: Keepers http://www.multiplereflections.org/journal/2007/07/18/system-snapshot/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Keepers Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:45:32 +0000 http://www.multiplereflections.org/journal/2007/07/18/system-snapshot/#comment-9 Dear Julie We have gone through many instances over the years where a great many keepers "disappear" for periods of time, usually when there is a big change occurring, maybe an external change like changing t's or maybe internal, like realizing once and for all what we feared really did happen, really did. sometimes the alters just need to go inside, deeper and regroup, assimilate the information before moving forward. whatever it is for you right now we have faith it will work out for you. peace and blessings keepers  Dear Julie We have gone through many instances over the years where a great many keepers "disappear" for periods of time, usually when there is a big change occurring, maybe an external change like changing t's or maybe internal, like realizing once and for all what we feared really did happen, really did. sometimes the alters just need to go inside, deeper and regroup, assimilate the information before moving forward. whatever it is for you right now we have faith it will work out for you. peace and blessings keepers 

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